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Carl Giammarese of The Buckinghams
The landscape of modern American musical
history is painted with artists and groups that matter.
Take The Buckinghams, for example.
1967 - A female student dances to Kind
of A Drag at the local high school sock hop while a soldier
halfway around the world hums the same tune to himself in his muddy
foxhole. The student and soldier do not know each other - yet - but the
song becomes a small part of each of their lives.
2004 - The former student and retired soldier take their grandchildren
to the zoo. On the way they smile when they happen to hear the song, and
are each taken back to a different time and place. Many things have
changed over the years, but there are some things that never will...
Such as the music and people that have meaning in your life.
Carl Giammarese has been a member of The Buckinghams since day one, and
has seemingly enjoyed the ride. Carl recently took a few minutes to
speak with XMFan about the roller coaster ride known as the music
business.
XMFan: What is one of your first
musical memories in life? Carl: My first significant memory
is being scared to death before playing to an audience for the first
time. I was in a band with Nick Fortuna called
The Centuries, and this was our
first paying gig at a dance in Chicago at a place called the Vogue
Ballroom. I remember we were doing an instrumental song and I had to
play this little guitar riff, which I kept flubbing on stage because I
was so nervous and my hands were sweaty.
I also have many great memories through the years, like playing
different events such as The Hollywood Bowl. One of my greatest memories
was playing The Ed Sullivan Show - you really felt like you made the big
time when you went on that show. It was great. Of course recording
Kind of a Drag, then hearing it
played on the radio for the first time was as exciting as... Have you
seen the movie That Thing You Do,
where they all hear their song for the first time on the radio? It was
that kind of excitement.
XMFan: Were you expecting to hear
the song, or was it played out of the blue? Carl: We were told it was going
to be played at a certain time and were listening for it. I believe it
was on WLS radio in Chicago. It was a great time for radio then and we
received a great deal of support from the stations, especially WLS. The
Program Director Clark Weber was a big fan and very supportive - he did
a lot for us. It was a pretty exciting time.
XMFan: When did you learn to play
the guitar and bass? Carl: Well, really my main
instrument is of course the guitar, and along the way I also started
playing bass. When I was doing a lot of demo recording it was easier for
me to just play the bass rather than find someone that was available. I
really like the bass and started getting in to it, and now in our shows
I play bass on a couple of tunes where Nick sings lead. The guitar is
still my main instrument - of course I like to think of my vocal cords
as an instrument, too. I first picked up a guitar when I was thirteen
years old and my parents started getting me guitar lessons with a
teacher. Being a lefty, I still learned to play right-handed.
XMFan: What kinds of goals and
expectations did The Buckinghams have in early 1966? Carl: Everything changed when
The Beatles came along - all of
a sudden we all wanted to be Beatles and make hit records, be famous. My
goals in '66 were to be in a successful band on the top of the charts,
be a rock star and the whole nine yards. That's what we were striving
for, even though we were a little bit unsure about how to get there and
some of it was just blind luck. A lot of it was we were just lucky to
have the right look, the right guys in the band, and the right songs to
come along. Then after Kind of a Drag
and Don't You Care, things
became more formulated and a little more thought out.
So certainly our goal was to be as successful as possible, but I don't
believe any of us knew exactly how to get that success. But, you know,
after a certain point it became a matter of staying focused and to keep
working at it - eventually good things would come.
XMFan: The Buckinghams provided
much comfort to our nation during a very turbulent era. Do people ever
share stories with you about how the music affected them during that
time? Carl: Oh, yeah - today I'll still
have people come up to me after the show and tell me they were in
Vietnam and how our music helped them get through it. It gives me a
really warm feeling and still gets me choked up a little bit when I
think about it because I can really relate to and feel for what was
going on at the time. Of course our songs were not protest songs or
heavy tunes - they were basically love songs, the guy-girl breaking up
and getting together type music - and I think that kind of music was
important to them being over there fighting that war too, because it
made them think of their girlfriends back home and gave them something
to hold on to. Maybe it was just a lighter note to help them forget
about their problems and troubles that were going on there at the time.
I still like to occasionally acknowledge our Vietnam Veterans that are
out in the audience, along with prayers to our men and women involved in
Afghanistan and Iraq today. It's an important thing to acknowledge
because I believe they are over there doing something really important.
I hate to get in to politics here, but I don't totally agree on this war
- but I do certainly support them one hundred percent. Like I was
saying, after the show we sign autographs and meet the fans, and it
seems I always have people coming up to me to say how much it meant to
them to hear our music while over there. It's gratifying to know we
might have done a little something over there to help them.
XMFan: What are a few commercials
that have featured your voice? Carl: (Laughs)
Well, I did some McDonalds commercials - there was one in particular
with a McDonalds "chant" back in the 70s. It started out, "Big
Mac, Fillet-O-Fish, Quarter-Pounder, French fries, icy Coke, thick
shake, sundaes and apple pies!" The commercial ended with, "You
deserve a break today at McDonalds." I was part of the group that
did the tags at the end of the United Airlines commercials - "Fly
the friendly skies!" There were a variety of others like
Kellogg's and RC Cola. I probably did about 160 different commercials
back in the 70s and early 80s. Chicago was a major jingle town and a lot
of national commercials were done here, especially from the big ad
agencies that were here.
XMFan: Would you give us an
overview of Trying Not To Fade,
your new solo CD? Carl: To begin with, I've always
loved writing songs. Sometimes I feel like I could just sit at home all
day writing songs and be happy. So what happened here was I collaborated
on Trying Not To Fade with Michelle, who is the wife of my Buckinghams
guitar player, Bob Abrams. She had written a lot of lyrics and poems,
some different things. I got together with her one day and looked at
some of her stuff, then took some of it and started putting music to it.
Before I knew it, along with her lyrics and my music, then a couple of
songs where I wrote both the music and lyrics, I had eleven songs. I
started putting them together in my studio really without the intention
of turning them in to an album - they were pretty contemporary - and I
was just going to lay these songs down and hopefully get some of the
newer young artists to pick them up. But then as I went along it started
coming together more and more, and pretty soon started sounding like an
album. I got more involved, more serious with it, and decided to turn it
in to an album for myself.
I felt like I identified with the songs and was really part of it, and
it was the sound I was going for. I didn't have much hope of having
commercial success with it because I know from experience the record
companies are looking for the new young artists to sign and aren't very
interested in us older artists - unfortunately they don't let the music
stand on it's own. I got a lot of positive feedback from record
companies and radio, but didn't really get much attention as far as
airplay.
XMFan: I believe fans can order
the CD from your website? (www.carlgiammarese.com)
Carl: Yes, I do sell it there.
I've had a steady flow of orders for it, and the song
Oh Lord (Make Me More Like You)
was actually played on The Fish, a Christian Rock station in Chicago. It
was a song I wrote very quickly, as kind of a dedication to my father
who passed away a few years ago. I was surprised when they started
playing the song, and a Christian artist by the name of
Lisa Ann recorded the song in
Nashville and made it a part of her album
In His Presence. It was kind of
exciting to hear another artist do my song. It was a great experience to
do the album and hopefully I'll be doing more in the future. It's not
something I did looking for a big commercial success, but was something
I needed to do creatively - I love having the creative outlet.
XMFan: What kind of feedback have
you received in regards to the new Buckinghams CD
Terra Firma? Carl: Well, it was another
disappointment commercially, because we did actually get a lot of
airplay on about fifty adult contemporary stations. It was some good new
material and recorded nicely. But once again, we didn't really get the
attention of... It is so hard to get record labels and contemporary
radio stations to support some of us more seasoned artists. I was
recently talking with a friend of mine who I hadn't seen in years,
Peter Cetera - of course he's a
Chicago guy - and we were talking about how difficult it is to get
played on the radio. He is such a magnificent talent, and what a great
voice he has - and he certainly had much more success than I had - but
he still has trouble too. He still does great recordings but it's not
easy to get yourself played. It's not just him and us, but all the
artists that go back a ways. I don't know which direction (radio
stations) are going, but I don't feel they are paying enough
attention to bands like us. It's just a shame that a lot more people
didn't have the opportunity to hear it.
We also just released a live album,
Live & Well..., that is available at our shows and on our
website. (www.thebuckinghams.com)
It's a very exciting album - it has all our hits and some album cuts
from a concert we did in Chicago. Please check it out if you get a
chance! (Laughs)
XMFan: Seems like you guys put on
a heck of an entertaining show... Carl: We have a pretty
high-energy live show. Nick and I, who are the two original Buckinghams,
are joined by Bob Abrams on guitar and vocals, Bruce Soboroff on the
keyboards and vocals, and Tom Scheckel on the drums. They've been with
us for about twenty years now. The show is directed at bringing back a
lot of great memories - we of course do all the Buckinghams hits, some
album cuts, as well as some of our favorite songs from the late 60s.
We'll do a tribute to The Beatles,
or a tribute to the Solid Gold Sixties Tour, which we are doing on and
off with Herman's Hermits,
The Grass Roots,
Tommy James, and
Chad and Jeremy. We just have a
lot of fun when we're up there, and when people email or see me after
the show to tell us how we brought back some good memories listening to
those songs again, and that we sounded great, it just makes us feel
really good and I know we accomplished what we were trying to do. You
know, that's the whole thing - that everyone has a good time. I think we
come off like we are having a good time, because we really are. Our
audience is the most important thing, and is the reason why we still
have success. We realize it, and I don't believe you could fool them by
just getting up on stage and going through the motions. It's great that
they still come out and support us.
XMFan: What does Carl Giammarese
listen to in his car? Carl: I'm pretty eclectic there,
and listen to a lot of different stuff. The fallacy is that people
probably think we're a bunch of oldies guys listening to oldies music,
but when I'm here in Chicago I listen to contemporary radio stations
like 101.9 to hear the new music and new bands. I like some of the
mainstream bands like Matchbox Twenty,
Counting Crows,
Sarah McLachlan,
Sheryl Crow and
Alanis Morissette. I'll listen
to Norah Jones when I'm in the
mood. I also like some of the jazzier things - I listen to
Diana Krall a lot. Lots of
classical music, especially on a nice Sunday morning if I'm home. Of
course I appreciate all the oldies stuff too, so I'm pretty much all
over the board when it comes to listening to music.
XMFan: Any parting words to your
fans, both new and old? Carl: First of all, I want to
thank all the fans we have who have been so supportive, and I appreciate
all their input. Back when I was nineteen and first doing this, I never
thought I'd still be around at this late date doing it - and it's
because of them. I think that our music - and not just The Buckinghams,
but also the other bands I mentioned before that we play with - is
lasting because of a certain strength, a certain thing the songs were
saying, even if it was just a simple love song. The melodies and lyrics
are lasting and we've proved the test of time. Thank God for oldies
radio, and they are still playing our music.
Even the younger fans seem to enjoy us when we play the fairs and
festivals. I think they can relate to our music because back when we
were starting out, and our parents were listening to the big bands
twenty years before our time, we didn't really relate to that very well.
Now here we are, thirty years or more after we started, and the younger
audience is still interested because we were still garage bands,
basement bands, guitar bands starting out and I think a lot of music
today still starts the same way. There's still a connection between our
music and what's going on today and much of the younger audience is
still listening to The Beatles
and The Stones. My parting words
would be to please keep listening to this music because it's great and
you can still be a part of it.
The Buckinghams can be heard on Deep
Tracks, 60s on 6, and Soul Street.
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