Dave Ramsey is weird. He's proud to be
weird because "normal" is broke. According to Dave, "debt is dumb, cash
is king, and the paid off home mortgage has taken the place of the BMW
as the status symbol of choice."
As a result of going deeply into debt and ultimately filing for
bankruptcy years ago, he learned how destructive behaviors can keep
people from achieving their financial goals. He now devotes himself and
his company, The Lampo Group, to giving others the confidence to win
with money. Dave
spreads his message through his New
York Times best-selling books, a daily
radio show, Total Money Makeover
live events, and Financial Peace University, a small group program
where families learn together. He helps walk people through the "Baby
Steps" (borrowed from the movie What
About Bob?) to live within a budget, get out of debt, and take
control of their financial lives. He even
recommends local professionals "with the heart of a teacher" through his
Endorsed Local Provider program. They are all people who are experienced
in helping his listeners through many different life issues, including
marriage counselors, CPAs, realtors, insurance agents, and investment
advisors.
Dave was kind enough to take time out of his very hectic schedule to
answer some questions for XMFan.
XMFan: In preparing for this
interview, I was reading other interviews that you have given. I
happened to run across what may have been one of your first online
interviews, with Ann Devlin in 1997. In that interview, you mentioned
that your company had 25 employees at that time, you were just about to
pay off your mortgage, and you were just under a million dollars in net
worth. How does it make you feel to think about how far you've come in
just 9 years?
Dave: We've been very blessed.
It's amazing. Our team has grown to nearly 160 people; "The Dave Ramsey
Show" is on more than 260 radio stations with more than 2 million
listeners weekly; and more than 250,000 families have gone through
Financial Peace University. In our office we talk a lot about the
Momentum Theorem: Focused intensity over time multiplied by God equals
unstoppable momentum. We've worked hard for 15 years and now we're an
overnight success.
XMFan: You frequently say that
the way to learn how to be rich is to ask a rich person. You also cite
such motivational personalities as Zig Ziglar, Tom Hopkins, Stephen
Covey, Larry Burkett, and Thomas J. Stanley, not to mention the Bible.
But is there a particular person who stands out as an inspiration as you
came out of bankruptcy and as you crafted your debt-free message?
Dave: I read a lot of books and
talked to a lot of people but Larry Burkett was a definite influence.
XMFan: Did your religious
awakening come about after you found yourself in financial trouble, or
did your situation cause you to come to the realization that the Bible
held the answer to financial questions?
Dave: I met God on the way up but
really got to know him on the way down. After hitting bottom, I went on
a quest to find out how
money really works, how I could get control of it, and how I could have
confidence in handling it. I read everything I could get my hands on,
including the Bible. I discovered that there are more than 800
scriptures that talk about how to handle money God's way. This helped
change the way I look at money and my relationship with money.
XMFan: What made you decide to
devote your life (at least a good portion of it, so far) to teaching
others?
Dave: I have the heart of a
teacher. Talking to callers on my radio show and teaching people through
live events is why I get out of bed in the morning. I've done stupid
with zeros on the end. I want to help other people avoid the mistakes I
made.
XMFan: After you wrote your first
book, what made you decide to make radio such a major outlet for your
message? Were there any struggles at first, since you didn't have a
background in radio? What did you do to overcome them?
Dave: It really just happened. I
was a guest on a local radio show talking about real estate. The station
was amazed to see the phones light up. When that host left the station,
which was in bankruptcy at the time, I took over his time slot. We made
some mistakes along the way but we learned from them and kept going. The
most important thing has always been that we help people.
XMFan: For those of us who
haven't attended one of your Live Events, how do they differ from your
radio show? You mention that you run around the stage for five hours,
but what else do you do to motivate those who need that extra push to
take control of their financial life?
Dave: The radio show is random.
It's just life playing out on the radio. While the theme of our show is
consistent people's life circumstances vary and therefore the show is a
bit of a melting pot. There is a clear cut mission to the live event.
There is a clear beginning and end. Families leave the live event
knowing what they need to do in order to win with their money. As a
result of having a plan (often for the first time) we also see a lot of
stress removed from families and as a result relationships also begin to
heal. This money stuff is hard. Not having a plan with it puts so much
pressure on families and as a result really strains relationships. At
these events, we laugh, we cry and I think people realize that the
problems they're facing are pretty normal.
XMFan: Since we're an XM-related
discussion forum, music is one of our favorite topics here. You talk
frequently about enjoying Contemporary Christian music, but do you have
any other musical favorites?
Dave: Contemporary Christian is
what I listen to most often but I certainly work some Classic Rock into
the mix.
XMFan: Who picks out the bumper
music on your radio show?
Dave: I don't have good taste in
music so the longtime Senior Producer of "The Dave Ramsey Show," Blake
Thompson, is responsible for picking the "hip" bump music.
XMFan: Every day, you go through
all of the ways your listeners can catch your show-internet streaming,
podcasts, AM/FM, as well as satellite radio. What were your expectations
when you first agreed to air your show on XM and Sirius? Have there been
any surprises? How does owning and distributing your own show affect
your relationship with affiliates?
Dave: Our company wants to help
people. We want to get this message out anyway possible.
So we want to make sure it's available through multiple streams. XM has
done a great job getting the word out about their product and, as a
result, our show is heard by a lot of people everyday via XM. I really
didn't have any expectations with satellite radio. It was a new product
and the verdict was out for a long time. I will say that the audience
has grown very quickly and the listeners are very passionate and loyal.
As far as owning and distributing our own show, there are certainly
benefits. We still have the ability to move quickly. We can make
decisions and implement changes without having to go through all the red
tape. I think that has benefited us in a huge way.
XMFan: Your book
The Total Money Makeover is
obviously still very relevant, despite being a couple of years old, but
do you have any new books in the works?
Dave: Right now I don't have
plans for another book.
"The Dave Ramsey Show" can be heard
weekdays on XM-165 Talk Radio from 3:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m. Eastern Time. For more
information on what Dave Ramsey is all about, please visit
http://www.daveramsey.com.
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