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Waymore
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 Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb, Iran |
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the current administration continues to flex while deciding who to attack next, maybe a two-for-one, Syria and Iran
| Quote: | Pentagon calls for 'urgent' upgrade of massive bunker-busting bombs, as Iranian threat looms
By Jennifer Griffin
Published February 11, 2012
| FoxNews.com
The military's so-called Massive Ordnance Penetrator, a 30,000-pound bunker buster bomb, requires an "urgent" upgrade, according to Pentagon officials who are trying to ensure that 20 of the bombs are battle-ready -- possibly for use against Iran, though officials have been tight-lipped on potential targets.
The Air Force developed the bomb in conjunction with Boeing to attack concrete bunkers and tunnel facilities, and the Pentagon has requested $81 million in reallocated funds from Congress to get it ready for use.
Defense appropriators on Capitol Hill agreed to the request on Wednesday, just one month after Iran announced it would begin uranium enrichment at a hardened underground facility near the city of Qom in the Fardow mountain range. The tunneled facility is thought to be beyond the range of the bunker buster in question -- the largest non-nuclear weapon in the U.S. Air Force's arsenal.
A Pentagon spokesman said the funding was needed to "make the system more survivable."
The Massive Ordnance Penetrator, or MOP, is delivered by a B-2 or B-52 bomber plane. According to Boeing, it "allows the warfighter to hold adversaries' most highly valued military facilities at risk, especially those protecting weapons of mass destruction."
Publicly, the Air Force denies this weapon is being rushed for use in the Middle East. Air Force Chief General Norton Schwartz dismissed suggestions that the upgrades are tied to tensions with Iran.
Former Rep. Ike Skelton, who once served as House Armed Services chairman, was at the Pentagon on Friday to dedicate a new Navy ship in the name of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. He was asked whether the MOP faced problems when his committee was responsible. He said, “no,” adding that the U.S. has the conventional firepower to stop Iran's nuclear program.
Meanwhile, Israel successfully tested upgraded radar for its Arrow Missile Defense shield that it jointly developed with the Pentagon. The Blue Sparrow 2 missile was fired from an undisclosed location deep in the Mediterranean Sea towards Israel.
The test comes just days after Iran tested its Shahab 3 missile, which is capable of hitting Israel, and on the same day that Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was in Tehran to improve ties.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| So, Bush goes to war, you applaud. Obama goes to war, you object. |
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Waymore
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| theawfulwaffle wrote: | | So, Bush goes to war, you applaud. Obama goes to war, you object. |
So, Obama goes to war, you applaud. Bush goes to war, you object.
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theawfulwaffle
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Waymore wrote: |
So, Obama goes to war, you applaud. Bush goes to war, you object. |
Really? I applaud Obama going to war? Care to point out where I applaud? |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| theawfulwaffle wrote: | | Waymore wrote: |
So, Obama goes to war, you applaud. Bush goes to war, you object. |
Really? I applaud Obama going to war? Care to point out where I applaud? |
Waymore? |
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theawfulwaffle
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| theawfulwaffle wrote: | | theawfulwaffle wrote: | | Waymore wrote: |
So, Obama goes to war, you applaud. Bush goes to war, you object. |
Really? I applaud Obama going to war? Care to point out where I applaud? |
Waymore? |
Waymore? |
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TheGunslinger
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Okay just so I got this right - the military is the Administration.
Right?
Because to me it looks like the military wants the bunker busters; not necessarily the Administration per se.
Generally the way these things work is the CinC/Admin works on scenarios with military types and they do the actual battle planning at the Pentagon.
Contingencies is a word often used in conjunction with military ordinance stockpiling. It seems to me that there has been a need for this sort of thing for some time to meet certain expectations. This urgent order may be nothing more than using the Israeli rumors to goad Congress into giving them the MOABs they want.
John McCain has been wanting to attack everything that moves starting a decade ago; so maybe he had something to do with this expedited order. That man never met a conflict he didn't want US to join.
But to be honest I don't see Obama unilaterally, or with Israel, attacking Iranian Nukes preemptively.
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| theawfulwaffle wrote: | | theawfulwaffle wrote: |
Waymore? |
Waymore? |
again, your obsession with me is very disturbing, besides eye insurance, do you have any others that may help
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| TheGunslinger wrote: | Okay just so I got this right - the military is the Administration.
Right?
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well, it was before Obama got elected, but I keep forgetting, he hoped and changed, along with everyone else that voted for him
and yes, Panetta is his man
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| Waymore wrote: |
again, your obsession with me is very disturbing, besides eye insurance, do you have any others that may help |
So you can't quote me supporting Obama's wars. Weird, I was expecting you to find me quoting that I supported his wars. |
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| theawfulwaffle wrote: | | Waymore wrote: |
again, your obsession with me is very disturbing, besides eye insurance, do you have any others that may help |
So you can't quote me supporting Obama's wars. Weird, I was expecting you to find me quoting that I supported his wars. |
sorry, I was waiting for you to quote me, then maybe I'll bother with you
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| theawfulwaffle wrote: | | Waymore wrote: |
So, Obama goes to war, you applaud. Bush goes to war, you object. |
Really? I applaud Obama going to war? Care to point out where I applaud? |
Care to point out where he applauds? |
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theawfulwaffle
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Waymore wrote: |
sorry, I was waiting for you to quote me, then maybe I'll bother with you |
You made a claim, that you can't prove. Seek help. |
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Waymore
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| theawfulwaffle wrote: | | Waymore wrote: |
sorry, I was waiting for you to quote me, then maybe I'll bother with you |
You made a claim, that you can't prove. Seek help. |
hey, blindwaffle, you need to use that eye insurance of yours, then come back and read the second poast in this thread
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theawfulwaffle
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Waymore wrote: |
hey, blindwaffle, you need to use that eye insurance of yours, then come back and read the second poast in this thread |
So you approve of Obama wanting to do something about Iran? |
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